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iconoclastica



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjlittlefield wrote:
BugEZ wrote:
...catch directly into a cup...

Once upon a time, I found myself without a net and wanting to catch some butterflies. In desperation I tried a small clear plastic bag, and found to my surprise that it worked great! My speculation is that the bag was transparent enough that the butterflies did not perceive it as a threat. Many of them did not even react as I slowly lowered the bag around them. Have you checked to see if completely clear plastic cups would work even better with your flies?

--Rik


I recently caught a mouse that way...
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BugEZ



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rik wrote
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Have you checked to see if clear cups work better?


No, but it is certainly worth a try.

I have seen a difference in my fly stalking when I wear different shirts. Some are definitely better camouflage than others. Doli are highly visual.

Lou Jost wrote
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Some traits are accidental consequence

True. Red blood in hemoglobin based animals, green blood in copper based Vulcans... More seriously, an internet search disclosed lizards on some island with green blood. Astonishing!

https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2013/09/30/why-do-mysterious-lizards-have-green-blood/

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another observation...

When I was attempting to "pose" the fly, I basically gave up because the
legs met at a central point under the abdomen. I was wanting to spread
the legs so the fly would at least be free-standing, but I simply could not
do this. I ended up using "closed" tweezers to hold the legs.

Any thoughts on how to spread the legs and the material to use to keep
the legs in place?

I use foam as some insects have fine structures that "grab" the foam,
keeping the legs still. That is how I did the stink bug, and after hardening,
I was able to let it sit naturally.

Mike
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BugEZ



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fly taxidermy is not a skill I have acquired. If I want to photograph legs I affix a toothpick to the back of the abdomen and settle for the rigor mortise bequeathed leg pose. My normal technique is to affix the ends of the legs with nail polish to a toothpick. My stacking rig is designed for bugs affixed to a toothpick. If I want a natural pose, I do single shots in the field and not stacks. Can’t be much help I’m afraid.

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P1280077 by Keith Short, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for going out of topic, but regarding rigor mortise and leg posing, this helps:

1. Kill in alcohol or acetone;
2. Remove killed insect right away, spread legs right away (under macroscope if necessary), pin down/hold legs with insect pins or map pins onto a tiny foam block.
3. Invert foam block (insect side down) and submerge it into 5% white vinegar for about 24 hrs. Vinegar inactives many enzymes that cause color changes.
4. Submerge insect with foam block in alcohol solution of gradually escalateing concentration. Different insect needs different escalation (75% one time works perfectly for beetles, but may shrink a spider or a fly).
5. Air dry for a week. Finally remove pins. Insect legs would look relatively natural that way.
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Pizzazz



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys

Thanks for the info on mounting. I will try this the next time I get one of
these little boogers.

So much to do. So little time.


Mike
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