What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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Thanks! I wouldn't really claim to know what I'm doing, but it does slot in nicely for a lot of my favorite subjects.
Yeah, the Olymlus XLUM 20x/1.0 is just over 9k from Thorlabs, not cheap but far from the most expensive lenses you've handled. There's also a very intriguing Nikon water immersion plan apo 25x/1.10 with a 0-0.17 correction collar and 2mm working distance for the low low price of 30 thousand dollars. That has the same 75mm parfocal length so maybe that's a semi standard for high end water immersion optics? There is also an interesting Nikon plan fluorite 16x/0.8 water objective with a 3mm working distance, also 75mm pf, for only 7.5k. I wonder if you get extra snacks if you make an order that big. Though heck, if I win the lottery it seems like having a custom one made might be more economical and give great results, if only the correct maker can be found.
I think I'm going to be content with the one I've got though.

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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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Scarodactyl wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:59 pm
Thanks! I wouldn't really claim to know what I'm doing, but it does slot in nicely for a lot of my favorite subjects.
Yeah, the Olymlus XLUM 20x/1.0 is just over 9k from Thorlabs, not cheap but far from the most expensive lenses you've handled. There's also a very intriguing Nikon water immersion plan apo 25x/1.10 with a 0-0.17 correction collar and 2mm working distance for the low low price of 30 thousand dollars. That has the same 75mm parfocal length so maybe that's a semi standard for high end water immersion optics? There is also an interesting Nikon plan fluorite 16x/0.8 water objective with a 3mm working distance, also 75mm pf, for only 7.5k. I wonder if you get extra snacks if you make an order that big. Though heck, if I win the lottery it seems like having a custom one made might be more economical and give great results, if only the correct maker can be found.
I think I'm going to be content with the one I've got though.
....and I thought I would happy with Thorlab's Super-APO 10/0.5, that's pretty low-end compared.

On the subject of high-end glass, Lou and I were talking yesterday and I mentioned a certain lens line, supposed to the highest IQ of any lens line made, the Leica Summilux-C, I should start a thread on that, but Leica also makes a 120 macro, the Leitz Thalia prime 120 made by the same company, CW Sonderoptic, for Leica. Just for fun I looked up the day rate price to rent one. I found one LA to rent....ready? $1800 per/day. To rent. Didn't even bother to see what it cost is to buy one I was so shocked at rental fee. #-o


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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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cine glass has always been extremely expensive, a normal prime used to sell for 10'000-20'000. it's only recently that you can buy some relatively cheap, since some companies rehouse their stills glass with better mechanical housings (usually still 5000 though).

if you want expensive, look at the anamorphic lenses or cine zooms, which easily go from 20'000 to 100'000.
I actually filmed the same scene once with a Fujinon ZK19-90mm T2.9 Cabrio zoom (30'000USD) and a Fujinon 18-85mm T2.0 Premier Zoom (90'000USD) for a side by side - and yes, the Premier actually looked better :)

sorry for going off topic
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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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ps:
the Thalia line is actually not that expensive, about 30'000 per lens. rental list prices are always a overpriced, at least here in germany, nobody pays that (well, except maybe for one day commercials). on longer projects with lots of gear people often get 70% discount.
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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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chris_ma wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:47 pm
cine glass has always been extremely expensive, a normal prime used to sell for 10'000-20'000. it's only recently that you can buy some relatively cheap, since some companies rehouse their stills glass with better mechanical housings (usually still 5000 though).

if you want expensive, look at the anamorphic lenses or cine zooms, which easily go from 20'000 to 100'000.
I actually filmed the same scene once with a Fujinon ZK19-90mm T2.9 Cabrio zoom (30'000USD) and a Fujinon 18-85mm T2.0 Premier Zoom (90'000USD) for a side by side - and yes, the Premier actually looked better :)

sorry for going off topic
We should start a new thread :D

Canon used to make a big white box shaped $110K, all power servo, super zoom, 10-1000mm f/1.2 with built in 2x TC but it was for HD TV so what is that 1920x1080, or 2 megapixels res! :shock: Now they make a 50-1000mm for only $70K and its supports 4K. That's practically free compared. =D> #-o

BTW I am told the Summilux-C lenses I mentioned are not considered High-end. They are just good consumer market glass.

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Re: What even is this: Plan Apo 40x/1.0 W infinity f=180 unbranded m25 75mm long

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chris_ma wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:50 pm
ps:
the Thalia line is actually not that expensive, about 30'000 per lens. rental list prices are always a overpriced, at least here in germany, nobody pays that (well, except maybe for one day commercials). on longer projects with lots of gear people often get 70% discount.
Yes, true.

Los Angeles, pre-covid, used to have a few rental houses, that were open 24 hrs, open 365 day a year, since most pros don't buy, they just rent per job and charge the client. So who cares about cost, just put it on the AMEX titanium card and sent the bill to the client. ( I used to charge $30K-$35K per month in photo expenses so AMEX loved me, but not so much now) :shock:

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